May 12th at 11:05AM
WINNER Caption Challenge: Hillary Clinton and John Mellencamp
Presenting the winning caption for this picture of Hillary Cougar Clinton and John Rodham Mellencamp:
Submitted by Drewcypher, with 25% of the vote. Thanks, as always, to everyone who participated!
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Joseph Mitzen, whoever you are, that was the most brilliant response I have ever seen to that post, or any variation of it which has appeared everywhere in the blogosphere lately. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
>yes, obama has the mega-millions and where is he getting all this
>money–
From massive numbers of first-time political donors donating small amounts (best fund-raising results in American history, yet average donation is only $109). Unlike Clinton, Obama is not accepting lobbyist money or relying on a small number of rich donors like she has been. He's also MANAGED his money much better; she assumed the race would be over by Feb. 5th and blew most of her money by New Hampshire even though she had 25 million left over from her senate re-election campaign that she saved for the presidential race. Obama, meanwhile, had 10 million left over from his and gave it to the DNC to be given to other candidates. So, Obama put the party before himself and started this with Clinton having a $25 million dollar lead... not to mention Bill's '92 and '96 national donors' lists. And her worldwide name recognition. And her political insider contacts. Despite having every disadvantage, Obama not only pulled ahead of her, but broke records. Ahhh... it'll be so nice to have a president who can actually ACCOMPLISH things and perform BETTER than expected again.... sigh....
>yes he has tons of money and outspent clinton on the last
>elections and he lost most of them except where the black votes
>are dominant.
Um there's no state in the union where black votes are "dominant" (assuming you mean the majority). That's why blacks are considered a "minority". You could turn around and say that Clinton lost most primaries except where old, uneducated white women are dominant, but that would be silly and demeaning. The reality is that Obama has gone into every primary where Clinton was ahead and shrunk her lead (or beat her) EVERY SINGLE TIME. Every one. She has NEVER whittled away Obama's initial lead, ever. Think about that. Given time to campaign, he wins people over. When Hillary campaigns, she either stays in place or slips behind. She initially had a 10 point lead in Indiana and he had a 10 point lead in North Carolina. He increased his lead to 14 points in the final NC results and whittled her win to 2 percent in IN. He's not only a phenomenal fund-raiser, but an amazing campaigner. It came out recently that he campaign guru Mark Penn didn't even know the delegates in the Democratic race were split proportionally when he was drawing up their strategy! They had NO strategy after Super Tuesday because they thought they'd seal the deal (instead, Obama battled her to a draw, once again erasing her lead), and that's how Obama won the next 11 in a row.
By the way, when you complain about those pesky black people screwing everything up, you sound like Rush Limbaugh, who once stated that "if you don't count the black vote, Al Gore lost the popular vote". And incidentally, more whites usually go for the Republican than the Democratic candidate. Bill Clinton has the black vote to thank for his two victories.
> he is so wise that he spent 20 years listening to his bigot pastors
>and claimed he did not hear his pastor spoke those anti-american
>rants only to backtrack later that he indeed might have heard
>those words.
Personally, I see nothing anti-American in what Jeremiah Wright said - in fact, Ron Paul said some of the same during a debate. However, we know Obama didn't hear those particular words, as he wasn't even in the state on the day they were said.
>he has gone from being catatonic to wiley. he is so wise that in his
>adult life he associates himself with ayers and claims he was just a
>child when those acts of terrorism happened but conveniently
>ignore the part that ayers is unrepentant.
He "claims" he was just a child? Um, that's a simple biological fact, unless you believe that Obama is at least 10 years older than he claims. And that would be as conspiratorial as anything Rev. Wright ever said. And you're judging Obama because some guy he served on a board with is unrepentent for something he did 40 years ago? How the heck does that tell us anything about Obama? You might as well argue that I'd make a bad spouse because my friend's father has been divorced four times. It's silly. In fact, it's as silly as casting aspersions on Hillary's character because she chooses to stay married to that adulterer and liar... Bill. Who commuted the sentences of several Weather Underground members himself, by the way, as Obama pointed. Complete hypocritical double standard.
>if you are wise why don’t you research obama’s associates ,
If I was wise I wouldn't judge how someone would perform in the presidency by who his neighbors and pew-mates are. I would judge them by how they run their campaigns. That Hillary hired poor performers like Mark Penn would count against her. That he surrounds herself with incompetent people because of their loyalty... well, we've seen what eight years of that has wrought. Obama obviously has a better class of directly chosen underlings. Those are the only associates I'm judging... what kind of people he picks to perform key jobs.
>juxtapose that with his words and actions and draw a conclusion of
>what obama is all about?
I see complete consistency and a genuine desire for a new kind of politics. In Clinton, I see a lust for power and a drive for the presidency that began while she was still in the White House. I see a person committed to gaining the position rather than a person committed to seeing that position obtained and used for a specific reason.
>most of his wins were when he was still a relatively unknown entity
>—just a wonderful persona protected by the media.
So what you're saying is that it's easy to win when you're unknown running against on of the most well-known people in the world, but NOT when the world knows you? That ridiculous. By that reasoning, Mike Gravel would be front-runner right now. When this all began, Clinton was enjoying 20 to 40 point leads everywhere because of her massive name recognition. Again, see my argument about closing leads. The MORE he's known, the MORE people like him. He closed her massive advantages to win more popular votes, more delegates, more states, and more money. And there is no conspiracy between Obama and the media, the those who refuse to accept reality maintain.
>and—we are still getting to know him. we are not done yet
Honey, we've had 21 debates and about 42 primaries/caucuses. We've done all the knowing we're going to do. And we the people know who our nominee is. The DNC apparatus knows who our nominee is. John McCain knows who the nominee is. It's time for the die-hards to accept it.
> and the
>repubs. will see to that.
Sorry, but it's not going to come out that Obama rapes children or eats human flesh. It just isn't. And if he did, Hillary would have thrown it at Obama while she was busy doing the Republicans' work of throwing the kitchen sink at Obama. Heck, her commercials even invoked Osama bin Laden before they got a chance to.
>hillary’s are like you said a mausoleum–people lay flowers on it or
>spit on it.
Are you kidding? The Clintons attracted massive numbers of scandals, both real and imagined, and there's no reason to believe that that's stopped. Let's have records on who donated to Clinton's library before pronouncing the days of Clinton scandals over.
>obama said indiana is the tie-breaker: he lost it so now it’s on to
>oregon? sorry kid—2025 or until the lady who wears the pantsuit
>says it’s over.
It's over, as you can't run a campaign with minus twenty million dollars. As is, she's stiffed many small businesses and used her money for more campaign spending instead - that's not sticking up for the small worker, that's screwing them. Obama blew her away in NC and shrunk her lead to a squeaker in IN. What do you see there that Hillary should be the nominee? What I see is Obama opening up the lead even further. It's not Hillary's party, it's OUR party, and the more people attack the guy who has the INSURMOUNTABLE lead, the more John McCain doesn't have to do himself - and the more attention the primary battle gets, the more of a free ride John McCain gets in the press. Sorry, but Hillary needs to get her egomania in check and do what's good for the party and the nation and let the general election begin now, so that we don't spend a hundred years in Iraq.
rose....talk to the hand...your i d is bigger.
Hillary should quit because I don't like her. That should be reason enough for anyone. My ego is HUGE.
yes, obama has the mega-millions and where is he getting all this money--yes he has tons of money and outspent clinton on the last elections and he lost most of them except where the black votes are dominant. he is so wise that he spent 20 years listening to his bigot pastors and claimed he did not hear his pastor spoke those anti-american rants only to backtrack later that he indeed might have heard those words. he has gone from being catatonic to wiley. he is so wise that in his adult life he associates himself with ayers and claims he was just a child when those acts of terrorism happened but conveniently ignore the part that ayers is unrepentant. if you are wise why don't you research obama's associates , juxtapose that with his words and actions and draw a conclusion of what obama is all about? most of his wins were when he was still a relatively unknown entity---just a wonderful persona protected by the media. and---we are still getting to know him. we are not done yet and the repubs. will see to that. hillary's are like you said a mausoleum--people lay flowers on it or spit on it. obama said indiana is the tie-breaker: he lost it so now it's on to oregon? sorry kid---2025 or until the lady who wears the pantsuit says it's over.
>obama does not have required number EITHER so why should hillary
>quit?
Because Obama is ahead and Hillary would have to win something like 80% victories in all the remaining primaries to get ahead and she only topped 60% in New York and Arkansas?
It's like a baseball game where the score is 10-2 in the 9th inning and it's raining hard. The officials want to call it for the winning team and the other team insisting that the game should only be delayed, not called, because they could somehow score 8 points in one inning... oh, and there best player has already left the field with an injury. It's silly.
>he is just priming us to steal the election and that is what he is
>doing by posturing like he is the official nominee.
No, losers can steal an election. See "Bush, George W., 2000". Winners WIN elections. The guy ahead in delegates, states and popular vote doesn't "steal" anything. He earns it... unless one feels it's not his "turn".
> if he gets the magic number that is fine and legal otherwise the
>posturing is misleading and meaningless. he has not reach the finish
>line folks; he might be the one euthanized if he stumbles big time.
Hillary's already stumbled... tripped... fallen down a flight a stairs... and been run over by a car. Her campaign is 20 million in debt while Obama is flush with cash. Obama has brought scores of new voters into the party (myself included; I became a Democrat because of him) and Hillary has not. Hillary can't battle McCain on experience (he has more) or the war (she supported it too until it became unpopular). Obama can battle McCain on wisdom, judgement and change. Why would we get rid of Obama and make Clinton the nominee? That'd be like making John Edwards or Joe Biden the nominee. Makes no sense.
>that is what he is afraid of
The person winning doesn't need to be afraid. Only the person losing.
> that is why he is rushing this contest
We haven't had a Democratic primary drag on like this in decades. It's not rushing when we've had 21 debates and circa 42 primaries/caucuses.
> in case somebody yet again yank skeletons in his unrummaged
>closet.
He has no skeletons, just bones - some guy at his church said controversial things, he knew some other guy who set off a bomb when Barack was 8, etc. Clinton, meanwhile, has a proverbial mausoleum, from the true story of how she screwed up healthcare reform to who's donating to the Clinton library and foundation, to NAFTA-gate, etc.
Sorry, but this race is over and Obama is the winner.
obama does not have required number EITHER so why should hillary quit? he is just priming us to steal the election and that is what he is doing by posturing like he is the official nominee. if he gets the magic number that is fine and legal otherwise the posturing is misleading and meaningless. he has not reach the finish line folks; he might be the one euthanized if he stumbles big time. that is what he is afraid of that is why he is rushing this contest in case somebody yet again yank skeletons in his unrummaged closet.
I think that Hillary should drop out of this race why can't she and her supporters realize that it's over it's done it's fin throw in the towel Hill knows darn well that mathematically she don't have enough delegates to lock in the nomination does anybody notice something that days before the Kentucky Derby she told her supporters to bet on the horse Eight Belles after the race was over that horse broke both of it's front ankles then tragically the doctors had to kill the horse on the track and when she was in my city of Louisville having a one on one interview with a news reporter then the fire alarm turn on they had to leave the building I fell that Hilliary's presidential race is like the movie Final Destination follow the signs.