LiveBlog: The Final Democratic Showdown Judgment Rapture Armapocalypse
Montana
Obama 57%
Clinton 41%
South Dakota
Clinton 55%
Obama 45%
11:03: We're going to end this before CNN gets to their "magic wall." Goodnight, everyone. Have sweet, sweet, historically black dreams.
10:52: CNN reports that history is being made in the United States right now. And who better to mark to mark this historic moment than a completely inaudible Jesse Jackson on the satellite phone from Tanzania.
10:38: Barack Obama: "This is the moment. This is the time."
And with that, he took off his flag pin, gelled back his hair, looked over his headshot and quit the presidential race to audition for the touring company of Jekyll and Hyde.
10:24: Barack Obama: "I respect McCain's many accomplishments, even if he refuses to acknowledge mine."
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon....
10:12: Obama thanks his typical white grandmother. Typical.
10:08: Obama enters, the first black candidate to accept the nomination from a major American political party. If I didn't hate U2, I'd probably be really inspired by this.
10:03: CNN calls Montana for Obama based on reports from the loneliest exit pollster in history.
9:54: Hillary Clinton did not concede. In fact, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann now reports that she delivered the speech in an arena with no cell phone or BlackBerry service, so that none of her supporters would know that all of the networks had already called the nomination for Obama and that she might even be even a teensy bit expected to concede.
It was the best she could do, of course, as "Alternate Reality" was already booked by the Ron Paul army.
9:50: Hillary Clinton: "I will be making no decision tonight." Is that really what we want? A leader who can't make decisions?
Score one for Indecision, I guess.
9:45: Maybe it's just because McCain was the opening act, but other than the Obama needling Hillary Clinton really came off well. Nice speech all in all -- for a lady.
9:33: Hillary Clinton is speaking. And Terry McAuliffe is waving. Wave, Terry, wave!
9:26: CNN calls South Dakota for Hillary Clinton. Which means nothing, of course, unless she gets more black or more historic real fast.
9:21: From our comments board:
Chris Matthews brings up a good point. This is the first time in the WORLD that an African American is his party's presumptive nominee. Eat that Mozambique for never elevating an African American to this level.
Thanks to Punditphoelia.
9:11: And with 9% of South Dakota reporting, and Obama losing handily, MSNBC is also calling Obama the presumptive nominee
9:06: According to the CNN pundit panel, Barack Obama's victory comes 45/52/200 to the year/day/month/minute/parsec after Martin Luther King/Frederick Douglass/Paul Robeson/Abraham Lincoln/Michael Jordan said "I have a dream"/got himself on a stamp/sang "Ol' Man River"/freed the slaves/three-peated.
9:02: Oh, and would you know it, he's a black!
9:01: According to CNN, Barack Obama has clinched the nomination. Not the first time he's clinched the nomination, mind you. But the best time.
8:52: This is what I learned from John McCain's speech:
New Or-lee-ans is old douchebag for New Orleans.
Hillary Clinton is the best most best person in the world, and her supporters are even bester.
McCain takes America's economic security as seriously as he takes her physical security, proving that, as president, he will not rape America.
He's just not very good at this.
8:41: McCain on. Turn your damn music down!
8:34: Howard Fineman just burst onto MSNBC and said that an Obama insider has confirmed that Hillary Clinton has promised Obama she will concede only if offered the VP slot, which Obama has agreed to do, on the condition that she promises not to accept.
Clinton, in turn, has promised not to accept, provided Obama promise to lose, paving the way for her comeback run in 2012.
8:25: Wolf Blitzer asks John McCain advisor Steve Schmidt why his candidate is spoiling Barack Obama's party with a speech of his own tonight. Schmidt says that it's time for McCain to start the "great debate" with Obama.
He's right. All of history's great debates have started this way. In fact, it was Abraham Lincoln's giant "fuck you" to Stephen A. Douglas that, ultimately, got the slaves freed.
8:15: 4, now. Not very impressive, for a giant 4.
8:00: To demonstrate how many delegates Barack Obama needs to clinch the nomination, CNN is displaying the world's largest number 6, beating out the previous record holder, "The Whoppin' 6," just off Exit 112 on I-29 in Onawa, IA
Welcome to Indecision 2008's final Democratic primary liveblog. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are both slated to deliver big speeches tonight, and the votes of some white people who live far away from each other will be tallied. We'll be updating you when the important things happen, and when nothing does, we'll still pretend every few minutes or so.
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Lisa -- "I think if Obama wins..." If?
Sweetheart, I don't know how to break this to you... um, he won.
Antichrist, that makes me giggle.
Lisa -- "I think if Obama wins..." If?
Sweetheart, I don't know how to break this to you...
I think the republican party that being one John McCain should take Condoleezza Rice as his VP that would kill anything either Obama (who's name rhymes with drama and who I think will if elected go down in History like Jimmy Carter- really wanted to be a good president might do some good afterwards but lead our country into one of the worst economic times in history worse then where we are now not that I am a big fan of Bush but seriously McCain is not going to spend like Bush or like Obama and Clinton want to. So ) and or Clinton had to offer.
It's so sad man, I think if Obama wins, we are toast. Why is he so special? let a real back man run for president and lets see all these white people stand behind him, this is just a way for America to say they gave the blacks a chance. Well America he is more white than black. lets not F**ck up our country just to make a point. Plus he is the Antichrist after all.
::: 1 :::
"Quite frankly I think her rabid base is not a large as she'd have us believe. The crowds at her campaign stops have been getting smaller."
I agree. I think they realize that this is a dangerous position to be in. If they don't move fast to minimize the damage of her actions, she can be held responsible for the Democratics' loss to the Republicans. LOL at the word Rabid. I wouldn't call them rabid.... maybe super passionate.
::: 2 :::
"Maybe now we are little bit closer to peace in the world."
I hope so too. I really hope the next 4 years are years making steps forward in progress towards a better American economy and like you said, world peace.
::: 3 :::
I will say this, McCain makes some good points and I am not anti-republican. I just think that Obama sits on the right side of the issues. He is showing that he knows what people DO WANT while McCain seems to focus on what he thinks Americans DON'T WANT.
hello America,
I think this could be one of the greatest moments in American history. Maybe now we are little bit closer to peace in the world.
Obama is for sure the best choice you could make.
All the best from Serbia, another country that felt how the republicans make peace with bombs.
"Unfortunately she has used her supporters like hostages..."
Yes Ominous, that is disturbing. I'll bet that the MSM and the DNC will destroy her for that in the next couple of days. I hope the super delegates come out for Obama tomorrow. It would be nice also to see some defections from her side.
Quite frankly I think her rabid base is not a large as she'd have us believe. The crowds at her campaign stops have been getting smaller.
::: 1 :::
"Problem: Clinton's tactics at this point are purely power poker ones (classic Clintonian). Will Obama's ego force him to cal her or lay it down and give her whatever it is she wants?"
He defeated her hand as he gave his speech. She folded when she failed to acknowledge his nomination. He is already showing how much more qualified he is than her by how he is handling this whole situation.
::: 2 :::
"i think it's also the "right" move. If you are an Obama supporter, and I am a huge one , how do you reconcile his message of hope and unity with anyone but her? She's a tough mama. Obama can utilize her. "
I agreed until Obama got the nomination and she didn't acknowledge it. Her actions are showing that she is not desirable to me as a candidate because i don't feel like she has the interest of the party as her main priority. If she did, she would have lead her followers to stand behind the democratic party instead of using them as hostages in her chase of the nomination. When they threatened and continue to use the threat that Hillary supports will not stand behind Obama, she has yet to show herself leading them to stand for the Democratic party. Instead she uses this leverage to keep lobbying to be the nominee....
::: 3 :::
"So for me, her negatives outweigh her positives.
Would I vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket? Absolutely.
Do I believe Obama can win without her? Absolutely."
You took the words right out of my mouth. Unfortunately she has used her supporters like hostages and Obama will probably have to have her on the ticket. I love to see Obama/Clinton for 8 years and then Clinton/Obama for another 8 years but I have some serious doubts about Hillary now that all this has played out.
I hear what you're saying Sgt. Pepper.
However, I think it's one of those things that looks good on paper but doesn't really work so well in practical application.
Many would agree that Hillary is the most polarizing force in politics today. Her presence on the ticket would enable the Republicans to do two very important things.
1. Raise HUGE sums of cash (they hate Hillary like no other).
2. Unify and energize their fractured party (Hillary is a common enemy).
Both of these things I believe, would serve to fuel the nastiest campaign in American history. An Obama/Clinton ticket would probably spend way too much time and money defending the Clinton negatives that the Republicans have been cataloging over the years.
Also, Clinton and Obama have two very different campaign styles. I don't think they compliment each other in that area. I doubt Hillary is going to be happy becoming Obama's subordinate... her strength of personality becomes a weakness in this case. Besides, it's hard to call yourself an agent of change when your VP is perceived by many as a key member of a political dynasty.
So for me, her negatives outweigh her positives.
Would I vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket? Absolutely.
Do I believe Obama can win without her? Absolutely.
Just a humble opinion from a crack smoking mongoloid.
Obama and Clinton should submarine the mainstream media with their announcement. A YouTube Comedy Sketch. Act I - Rocky; Act Ii - Jungle Fever; Act III - Destruction of The Death Star.
Problem: Clinton's tactics at this point are purely power poker ones (classic Clintonian). Will Obama's ego force him to cal her or lay it down and give her whatever it is she wants? I'm assuming that would be Veep unless she can't bring herself to take orders from him. If that's so, the only position she could angle for would be Supreme Court. Appointment for life, orders from no one. She is a lawyer and The Court is a higher authority than The Presidency in a lot of ways. However, who will be the nominee? Webb? Can he win without her?