Barack Obama vs. Barack Obama Supporters
The Huffington Post is reporting that all is maybe not well between Barack Obama and his liberal lapdog supporters...
Only weeks into the general election campaign and already a notable tension is beginning to materialize within the Democratic Party. At question is Sen. Barack Obama's relationship with the progressive netroots, the online community that helped aid the Senator's rise to the presidential nomination, but has since seemingly played second fiddle in terms of courted constituencies.
Whaaaaaat? How can this be?
Here's how it all went down. Over the weekend, Barack Obama announced that -- although not in favor of the idea of retroactive immunity for the shady corporatations that helped our own government spy on us -- he supports the FISA legislation that the Senate is about to pass that will magically make all the illegal wire-tapping that the White House did legal after all.
But it's all alright, because he super double-dog swears that, as president, he won't take advantage of the power to watch over all of America like Big Brother...
"Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program," Obama said in a statement hours after the House approved the legislation 293-129.
Oh, well, he seems like a nice man. How can you mind surrendering your Constitutional rights to someone so charming?
Anyway, uber-lib Glenn Greenwald over at Salon was quick to get all "Waa waa waa, I don't want the Constition Constitution* torn to shreds" on Obama's ass...
It is absolutely false that the only unconstitutional and destructive provision of this "compromise" bill is the telecom amnesty part. It's true that most people working to defeat the Cheney/Rockefeller bill viewed opposition to telecom amnesty as the most politically potent way to defeat the bill, but the bill's expansion of warrantless eavesdropping powers vested in the President, and its evisceration of safeguards against abuses of those powers, is at least as long-lasting and destructive as the telecom amnesty provisions.
The bill legalizes many of the warrantless eavesdropping activities George Bush secretly and illegally ordered in 2001. Those warrantless eavesdropping powers violate core Fourth Amendment protections.
And Barack Obama now supports all of it, and will vote it into law. Those are just facts.
Isn't it just like a liberal to want to conserve our inalienable rights and keep the federal government from amassing too much power? Fucking predictable.
* I am the wurst spellor on the planit.
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Sarcasm aside, I do sincerely want Obama to be the next President of the United States. Hillary is awesome as well, and she is my hero. I hope everyone can put disappointments aside and support this excellent Democrat.
My Jon is so sexy! He makes me drool.
Cubby! How dare you state facts and try to make us aware of a potential problem that might arise if Obama comes into office. Isn't it so much more fun when they just wake up one day and implement something without consulting the American People?
Going to Europe and leaving Hillary as gator bait? Ha ha. Expecting a pair of alligator boots when ya'll get back? Damn straight. Now THAT's a Bush tactic if I ever saw one.
And another thing-grow UP! Obama is NOT the first politician to pander to key groups when he says outlandish things-it's called political strategy, and they often say things they have NO intention of doing!
Yes, it looks bad, but he wants the Independent conservative block of votes so that McCain won't have them. Conservative Independents are more willing to compromise on issues than hardcore GOP neocon conservatives.
However, IF he's serious about the FISA bill, then it's even more imperative to make sure the House of Reps. gets a Democrat majority to overturn it.
How do you define Muslim, Donna-as a religion or a hateful ideology among a relatively few handful of radical fundamentalists? IMO, you define it as the latter, based on your prejudice.
In the one where Obama says that referring to being black made him feel ingratiating. Where's the harm in that statement? Most Blacks in America STILL feel that way. But you Donna, condemn him for this. Look up the word 'ingratiate' in a freakin' dictionary.
As for the rest of your rant, you've made it perfectly clear earlier this year, that you were for Hillary. It's no surprise, then, that Obama just pisses you off! I guess pandering to conservatives is acceptable to you only if HILLARY does it, but not Obama.
Quit making a ludicrous ass of yourself and find another topic to rant about! This one is old.
Think you know who this man is?
This possible President of the United States ?? Read Below and
ask yourselves, is this REALLY someone we can see as the
President of our great nation!!!!
Below are a few lines from Obama's books; In his words!
From Dreams of My Father:
'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'
And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
We CANNOT have someone with this type of mentality running our GREAT nation!!
I don't care whether you a Democrat or a Conservative.
We CANNOT turn ourselves over to this type of character in a President.
PLEASE help spread the word!
...Just one more reason why it's key to make sure there are Democratic majorities in both houses to support the neocon agenda, since it's unlikely we'll be able to count on a Republican president...
Is the choice: Telecoms pay for what they did then or Telecoms keep doing it until FISA is passed ?
No. Now it's simply imperative there HAS to be more Democrats in the House this November, to override the President. This is a very nasty turn.